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Larry Berman CFA, CMT, CTA A Comment -- General Comments From an Expert A Commentary COMMENT Aug 12, 2024

Educational Segment.

Market pricing in a US recession?
Last Monday's meltdown was frustrating, because you couldn't trade anything in Toronto on the Civic Holiday. He expected markets, after a shock like that, to bounce. And they did. He's not convinced that it's the beginning of another leg up. Lots more volatility to come. Calls for an emergency Fed cut were just crazy; a gap down of 20-25% may have made the case. No real credit stress to support such a move.

What is the market volatility telling us now?  If you believe that it means recession, not just leverage being unwound, slowing economy, and Fed cutting cut rates, then equity markets are still grossly overvalued.

Look at a chart that tracks the S&P 500 along with times of recession. If you look at EPS on a trailing basis, when we go into a recession, EPS turn down. Always. The only questions for discussion are how much and for how long? Not "if". It's going to happen.

Another chart shows forward-based earnings expectations for the S&P for the current year, 1 year out, and 2 years out. Expectations going out show expectations of 10%, 13%, and 8% over the next 3 years. There's a recession coming. Those numbers aren't going to happen. Such a chart only makes sense if the Fed gets the calls perfect. At best, we go sideways.

There's no way with the most aggressive tightening cycle we've ever seen, and the whole rebalancing of the world, that this is a perfect outcome. Caution is still the message. Don't chase. Don't run out and buy the dip. If you're a day trader, that's all well and good. But if you're thinking long-term, strategic, you want to be defensive. Markets are very fully priced, rich, priced for perfection.

Months ago, he shifted his entire portfolio from public markets to private. Over the next year or two, the ride in the private markets will be much more friendly for returns than in the public space.

See his blog today for more details. If you look at history, the average bear market correction in a recession is 29% for the S&P 500. In 2022, we got a 20+% correction, but there was no recession. Many people think we're going higher, but he's not in that camp. Be defensive.

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Canadian companies amidst the trade war.

Difficult to manage what's happening because there's lots of uncertainty out there. He feels that a lot of businesses are holding off on certain capex spending, front-running some things to get ahead of tariffs. 

Still, markets have been pretty healthy. Since the April 8 lows, we're up about 13-14%. Generally, investor sentiment has been improving. Tariff tension is de-escalating somewhat. Seeing positive economic data and a pause on new tariffs. Steady job growth in the US is restoring confidence in the overall market.

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Trade talks.

US and China are going to start talks this week. While that's big news, he's not sure if it's more about de-escalation or about a deal. We'll see. In any light, it's positive.

Looking ahead, we have US mid-term elections coming up. The administration is going to need to get supporters back onside. Need to get the economy relatively strong, and get those votes; otherwise, they'll lose the House.

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Past 6 weeks in ETFs.

These past 6 weeks remind him of a quote from Lenin: "There are decades when nothing happens, and then weeks when decades happen." Between tariff announcements and then reversals, and sudden intraday shocks and moves in the stock market and in currencies, it's been an extremely volatile time. It's very cloudy and confusing. His ETF research desk has been inundated with questions.

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Sector for safety.

On the whole, he's not seeing the market retrench entirely out of equities. Money flows are split almost evenly between fixed income and equities. 2024 was a year of bull markets all the way, a record year for ETFs flows both in Canada and in the US, driven mainly by demand for the Mag 7 and the S&P 500. 

There's still a lingering desire and wish for those growth stocks to continue driving as the engine for the economy. But we're starting to see branches of flows moving into low volatility equities and certain aspects of fixed income, as well as buffers and other strategies for capital preservation.

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The appeal of ETFs.

They're highly efficient, giving you incredibly diversified exposure sometimes to thousands of stocks all at once. Enormous liquidity. Market makers stand ready throughout the day to execute huge orders. Primary and favoured vehicle for large institutions that want to turn over billions of dollars on a dime. 

Incredibly low fees and very tight spreads benefit investors as a whole. Smaller investors can piggyback onto this world-class institutional liquidity built around the ETF ecosystem. People who've just sold their stocks often move into ETFs so that they can maintain some type of market exposure.

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Share buybacks.

Buybacks are similar to dividends. A way for a corporation to return money to shareholders. The company just takes cash on hand from its operations and reduces their share count. The remaining shareholders see a little bit of a price increase and accretion of company ownership. It can insulate the share price from dropping or, controversially, to prevent large stock options from vesting. In theory, it's no different from a dividend.

Thing is, we live in the real world where there are things like taxation. Most investors would much prefer to see capital appreciation rather than income ongoing. 

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ETF that focuses on share buybacks?

You may find some if you search for "shareholder yield". Invesco partnered with some index companies in trying to understand shareholder yield as the core concept. Shareholder yield combines dividends and buybacks as the true signal for how companies return capital to shareholders.

Look in the US. There was one in Canada, but it delisted.

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Covered call ETFs give you a nice yield, but share price goes down.

This goes to the heart of how these covered calls work. They hold a basket of stocks, and then just write call options for a little additional yield. If the underlying stocks experience any drawdown, you participate in that 100%. The extra premium yield you collect along the way does buffer you a tiny bit.

What'd you'd look for is some kind of put protection that offers some insurance against a downside fall. There's a whole slew of new products called "buffer ETFs", which have only 1-year time horizons or sometimes a bit less. They use both covered calls and put protection to try to neutralize the downside move. These are sophisticated products, so they're not for everyone. Instead, look at PYF.

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Why buy bonds?

For about 15 years after the great financial crisis, when rates were near zero, bonds had almost no return potential and only downside in the face of rate hikes. At that time, many investors just went to cash instead.

Purpose of a bond alongside your equities is for it to zig when the rest of it zags. If you have something with an appreciable amount of duration, with fortress-like capital (think US treasuries long term), ideally that part of your portfolio should go up in a big market selloff. Provides some ballast for the ride.

He meets many young investors who have decided to go 100% into equities; the long time horizon will work for them. Not so for retirees or those who are risk-averse. Investor, know thyself.